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Interview: Grand Pax – The London songwriter opens up about her vivid and intimate music

This past Friday saw the release of Wavey, the second EP of the year from London’s Grand Pax. Rob Hakimian called her to discuss her process, the way she envisions songs, and what’s in store for the musician.

When I speak to Grand Pax aka Annie Pax, she and her girlfriend have just moved into a new place in Kingโ€™s Cross. โ€œItโ€™s been so stressful, and I havenโ€™t been in the studio for like a month and I just feel horrible,โ€ she tells me. Although, itโ€™s not all been bad, sheโ€™s enjoying the painting and DIY โ€“ โ€œall the shit Iโ€™ve never done before,โ€ as she puts it, โ€œIโ€™m very tired, but itโ€™s very interesting.โ€

Pax and her girlfriend are โ€˜property guardiansโ€™ โ€“ people who occupy shared living spaces in vacant buildings at a significantly lower rent than they would otherwise have to pay to live in those areas. Pax started the year in a former book warehouse in Clerkenwell, which she shared with about 15 people, but is now in an old hospital with around 20, although there are around 90 rooms by her estimation โ€“ โ€œdefinitely the weirdest place Iโ€™ve ever lived in my life,โ€ she says.

Youโ€™d think that, living with so many people around, Pax would feel the need to do all her music writing and experimenting on headphones, or at a low volume, but she prefers to play it loud โ€“ โ€œreally loud,โ€ in fact. โ€œI donโ€™t know if Iโ€™m selfish, but I do what I want,โ€ she comments, matter-of-factly. Perhaps this volume is not a desire, but a necessity, as it lends itself to the experiential nature of her songs, which enclose like sonic cocoons where Pax’s voice and vulnerabilities can thrive.

Sheโ€™s decided on โ€œtrippy pop musicโ€ as the short reply when asked what kind of music she makes. โ€œItโ€™s a little bit mellow, trippy infused, but I would still call it pop music,โ€ she explains. โ€œBecause itโ€™s not that left-field, although it definitely has those influences coming in.โ€ Indeed, while โ€˜trippy pop musicโ€™ certainly applies, it does sell short the myriad influences and styles that are enfolded within her music โ€“ not to mention the originality.

Although, sheโ€™s still early on in her career, and has limitless potential to grow and evolve. With this yearโ€™s tandem releases of two three-track EPs, Juneโ€™s PWR and last weekโ€™s Wavey, she has doubled the amount of officially released Grand Pax songs to a grand total of 12. Itโ€™s not that sheโ€™s slow though, sheโ€™s thinking about words and melodies constantly, but she has a level of quality control to maintain โ€“ so far she hasnโ€™t released a single ounce of filler.

With countless images and fragments occurring all the time, it can get a little overwhelming for Pax to try to keep up with her mind. โ€œIโ€™m always fiddling with ideas, I struggle with how much Iโ€™m always narrating in my head,โ€ she comments. Thereโ€™s a desire to try to preserve every idea; โ€œOn my laptop thereโ€™s a thousand text edit boxes open with little ideas,โ€ she says. But she doesnโ€™t always understand them later: โ€œif I get drunk then I read them to my girlfriend and sheโ€™s like โ€˜what the fuckโ€™.โ€

This may be due to the fact that much of Paxโ€™s lyrical themes deal with more abstract concepts relating to relationships and interaction, rather than the literal โ€˜woe is meโ€™ heartache of many songwriters. โ€œI try and write songs more about a situation,โ€ she comments. โ€œI try to write about the shapes, colours and feelings shifting in a more inventive way. Iโ€™m trying to paint a picture, and there are certain words, certain ways of saying stuff that jump out to me in a way that makes sense.โ€

The subtle details in her words come from a deep interest in human interaction, trying to capture ephemeral moments of attraction or electricity. โ€œI think I do notice that a lot about people; the way they move and the way they talk,โ€ she says. โ€œI am always watching people, Iโ€™m a bit of a creep.โ€ I suggest that โ€˜observerโ€™ might be more appropriate. โ€œYeah, you can call me an observer, thatโ€™s better,โ€ she laughs.

These kinds of unspoken interactions are rife throughout PWR and Wavey. From โ€œPWRโ€, where she requests โ€œGive me the space and give me the time to react to you nowโ€; to the salacious chorus of โ€œOne of Usโ€, where she announces โ€œI wanna be more than a move / be more than just a quick โ€˜think about itโ€™โ€; to โ€œTripโ€, where she observes โ€œyour mindโ€™s in bloom and silence fills the room,โ€ Grand Paxโ€™s music is full of quiet musings like streetwise incantations. These words come wreathed in regal blues and endlessly deep blacks, pierced through with polychromatic melody, each element pulling you into a shrouded atmosphere where private thoughts are expressed with abandon.

From these short but vivid glimpses into her thoughts and feelings, we get an impression of Pax as a person and artist โ€“ deeply emotive, contemplative, always looking for a good time, but wary of emotional anguish. Itโ€™s not a surprise to find out that these EPs come from โ€œa very intense timeโ€ in her life: โ€œthe last couple years I’ve been really insular,โ€ she admits, โ€œvery condensed feelings.โ€

At times, she has taken solace in watching films โ€“ often the same old films over and over. Sheโ€™s found an affinity for Vincent Galloโ€™s Billy Brown in Buffalo โ€™66 (โ€œheโ€™s super strange, but the girl loves him anywayโ€) and, more unexpectedly, often returns to Coyote Ugly, a film she first saw as a young child; โ€œfuck me, when I saw that I decided I what I wanted to do with my life,โ€ she laughs. โ€œThat’s me in a film; working in a bar writing songs on rooftops.โ€

This visual understanding of the world is evident in her songs, which she envisions as shapes rather than tones, and in her lyrics, where colours and movement are constant tools used to grasp at indefinable notions. โ€œThings resonate with me, feelings and sounds, periods of time where youโ€™re having a good time, or having a bad time, and they’ll have a colour, they’ll have a feel, and then they kind of stay with you marinate with you,โ€ she explains. โ€œAnd then it comes out into a piece of music.โ€

It sounds easy when boiled down like that, but translating these inchoate feelings into music is some kind of alchemy to those non-musicians among us. Even just managing to come up with and hold onto the ideas seems impossible. โ€œI feel like I carry a lot with me, and if I have my home studio set up then I can save them there,โ€ she says. โ€œBut if not, then I wait until I go to the studio and I explode.โ€

Luckily, sheโ€™s not alone in these moments of explosion, where she needs to get her expression captured in music. In the studio, she has recently been collaborating with the Stoke Newington-based production team Exmoor Emperor, who have also worked with some others of Londonโ€™s pop experimentalists like Jadu Heart and Bellatrix.

โ€œI basically see shit in my head and try and say it in a way that is poetic and unique, and the guys just facilitate that,โ€ she explains. โ€œThey’re really musical, they’re really cool, and it’s just really easy speaking through each other.โ€ Considering the introspective nature of Grand Paxโ€™s music, itโ€™s a little surprising to hear that she has more fruitful recording sessions when working with others. โ€œYou can do it on your own, but I find it easier with somebody else in the room to just encourage me,โ€ she says. โ€œIโ€™m quite closed otherwise.โ€

The results speak for themselves on the exquisite PWR and Wavey, but at this point itโ€™s expected of an artist to start thinking of bigger things โ€“ aka The Debut Album. โ€œIโ€™m writing with that in mind,โ€ she admits. โ€œI want it to be a body of work, so itโ€™ll be all new tracks.โ€ And, never one to let herself off easily, sheโ€™s got grand ambitions: โ€œI want it to be as good as Blonde. Thatโ€™s my go-toโ€ฆ thatโ€™s why I havenโ€™t written it yet.โ€


On the next page, Grand Pax takes us track-by-track through PWR and Wavey.